If the Bill Clinton of the early 90's could somehow run for office today on the same polices and ideals he ran on then, he would be considered a "far right nazi". That's how insane the left has become.
Actually, pretty much any president before Obama would now be talked about that way.
edgecrusher said:If the Bill Clinton of the early 90's could somehow run for office today on the same polices and ideals he ran on then, he would be considered a "far right nazi". That's how insane the left has become.
Actually, pretty much any president before Obama would now be talked about that way.
What ideals and policies lol? Trump probably wouldn't be president if it wasn't for NAFTA, which is one of Clinton's major legacies, and its destruction is what Trump based much of his campaign on. Not to mention Clinton made some attempts to decelerate rather than accelerate climate change, and instead of his businesses discriminating against blacks, he was America's first black president.
They're both pro-gulag, pro-bombing shit, but so far Clinton has bombed more shit and Trump just says he will, and his gulag policies pale in comparison so far as well. Plus they're both unfaithful and utter pieces of shit as human beings. So they have that much in common, but to say they ran on the same policies and ideals is a bit over the top.
However, if Trump isn't far right, what the fuck would be? Clinton's pretty right himself (he's a post-Raegonomics American president, what else could he be?). The fact that Clinton is considered left shows how insane the American left has become, not that they call a spade a spade when referring to Republicans lol. Calling far-right politicians Nazis is just an insult, or commenting on historical or philosophical similarities. Who fucking gives a shit?
edgecrusher said:If the Bill Clinton of the early 90's could somehow run for office today on the same polices and ideals he ran on then, he would be considered a "far right nazi". That's how insane the left has become.
So I don't understand this. At a time when the right is lining up behind a President
- Who bragged about sexual assault on film
- With 19 sexual assault allegations against him
- Who nominated a supreme court justice credibly accused of rape
- Sought the help of foreign adversaries during the election
- Is using his businesses to funnel money to himself, including from again, foreign nations
- Fired the director of the FBI investigating him in relation to Russian election meddling, and stating national TV that he did it because he didn't like the investigation
- Reported multiple offenses of obstruction of justice into the investigations of the above
- Is an unindicted coconspirator in an indictment against his personal lawyer for financial crimes
- Is running concentration camps full of migrant children who were seeking asylum, several of whom have died, and related to which government lawyers have suggested they shouldn't need to provide toothpaste, beds, or toiletries
- Called neo-nazis marching in Charlottesville and murdered a woman "very fine people"
- Casually disclosed highly classified security intel to the Russian foreign minister
- Routinely disregards and undermines American intelligence organizations, such as the conclusions that Russia interfered in the 2016 election
- Canceled the Iran nuclear deal for no reason
- Left the Paris climate accord
Meanwhile the Republicans in congress are
- Blocking legislation and funding to help protect future elections from meddling
- Rolling back civil rights protections
- Passing complete abortion bans
- Doing everything possible to pretend like climate change doesn't exist
- Limiting voting rights in every way possible
- Ignoring or undermining state referendums, like in Florida where they voted to allow ex-cons to vote
- Obstructing investigations into election meddling, such as in Georgia where they destroyed harddrives pertinent to an elections lawsuit
- Fine with the Republican candidate for Governor in Georgia overseeing the election of the Governor of Georgia
At the core of it all is essentially making enemies of everyone who is not straight and white. Immigrants are the enemy. The LGBT community is the enemy. The most vulnerable in society are the enemy.
This is off the top of my head. There is so much endless scandal, corruption, and just plain criminality that it's impossible to keep up. To look at what's happening and respond with "the left is crazy" is in itself insane. Please try to take a fresh, objective look at what has been happening. With the influence of the US, the entire world is deeply impacted. It's so important.
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Tell me to get back to rewriting this site so it's not horrible on mobileIt may, or may not, be a coincidence, but Neo-Nazi stickers started to appear at the same time as Brexit and Trump graffiti (before that, international political graffiti used to be about issues directly related to us; and we had our own world-leading brands of xenophobia). I find this utterly pathetic; Australia responded to a boat of refugees with the special forces before September 11, we've had concentration camps for donkeys years, why the fuck are our ultra nationalists sucking up to foreigners? Utterly shameful.
Did anyone see the Ivanka Trump ignoring at the G20 top? Suits her right, she has no place to be there. Do you see anyone else's family there? No. Didn't seem like a 'bring your kid to work' kind of day to me.
I don't understand how nobody managed to talk bringing her along (or her husband for that matter) out of their heads. Really, House of Cards really does pale to some of the stuff you see the Trumps do. She has no political experience, hasn't been elected. She's only 37! Truely, if the election of the new 'President of Europe' yesterday has proven anything, it's that you need to be at least 38 to haold an important global office.
By the looks of it they're trying to instate a monarchy, so she might not have to bother with the nuissance of an election 
If he were to lose next year’s election, I doubt the big baby would leave willingly. He’s so power hungry and attention seeking.
The last several decades of American politics have been dominated by family dynasties, so it would take a family-based coup and not an Ivanka election campaign to really constitute much of a difference.
I must admit it would be pretty funny if the first female president was a Republican. It would be even funnier it she wasn't even elected.
travo said:If he were to lose next year’s election, I doubt the big baby would leave willingly. He’s so power hungry and attention seeking.
You watch way too much CNN Travo.
Yes, he's going to lock himself in the white house. 
Trump definitely won't leave the White House quietly.
edgecrusher said:You watch way too much CNN Travo.
Yes, he's going to lock himself in the white house.
He would protest it in every way he could. It’s the rhetoric he started to use during the 2016 when it appeared his campaign might lose. “The system is rigged. Everyone knows this.”
I can't stop laughing everytime I see that balloon.
Practically speaking, what would Trump not leaving the White House quietly mean? Complaining about it post-election, with Republicans accelerating their policies of gerrymandering and what have you (so essentially the same general strategy from the GOP, just further sped up with even sillier rhetoric), or do you guys envision radical changes to presidential terms in response to a crisis, a millitary coup, or what?
Well, seems we can one-up your presidential shenannigens. Maybe half a year ago journalists lay bare an underground network of very conservative, extreme right, xenophobic and mysogynistic youth who were actively trying to infiltrate multiple public instances as to impact policy creation from within. Their leader was a rights student who tried to deny everything but couldn't convincingly do so because there was just too much factual evidence from their social network pages stored by the journalists.
Come the elections, and the extreme right nationalists offered him a leading position as number one candidate in one of our provinces. Which means that if the party does even only reasonably well, he'll be garanteed a place in parliament and thus inviobality (or so google translate tells me, not sure it's the correct word). So this guy goes from being publicly shamed and outcast, to being elected to parliament and thus being neigh impossible to prosecute, as well as receiving a very nice pay for the next 4 years in return for a forum to spew his xenophobic thoughts.
Yesterday news broke that he's being charged for hatespeach and xenophobia regardless. Wonder where this will lead. I hope the parliament agrees to letting him be tried, as he's clearly a complacent git who is not fit to be allowed anywhere near a governing body.