Dvader said:Foolz said:Dvader said:I am still as confused as I was then. You can replace Metroid Prime with any number of games and it fits what you wrote there just fine.
If you're as confused as you are, yes. Otherwise, no. You couldn't even replace Metroid Prime with Metroid Prime 2...
Hmm perhaps not. You still seem to have really created your own version of MP. You do know the story is simply that Samus is a bounty hunter and her job is to stop the Space Pirates from unleashing metroids on the galaxy.
See, this is what I don't understand. I can see how the review could confuse you, especially if you haven't read Fahrenheit 451. It requires knowledge of both works to be fully appreciated, but even then I don't deny its deliberate obscurity. That's the point of it. It's pivotal to what it's saying about both works. But to come up with comments like that makes no sense. Have you not read my correction in this very thread to point out that when I originally said story, it was a mistake? Did you not read my comment about the story on the blog's comments? Of course you did, so why do you keep bringing up the "story" when it is not in any way relevant to my comments here, or the review itself and has been described as "shitty" by the person you seem to think likes the story.
Foolz said:See, this is what I don't understand. I can see how the review could confuse you, especially if you haven't read Fahrenheit 451. It requires knowledge of both works to be fully appreciated, but even then I don't deny its deliberate obscurity. That's the point of it. It's pivotal to what it's saying about both works. But to come up with comments like that makes no sense. Have you not read my correction in this very thread to point out that when I originally said story, it was a mistake? Did you not read my comment about the story on the blog's comments? Of course you did, so why do you keep bringing up the "story" when it is not in any way relevant to my comments here, or the review itself and has been described as "shitty" by the person you seem to think likes the story.
Ok forget the story, let me rephrase what I was saying. Basically that I am pretty sure Retro had zero intention of making a game about anything you mentioned in your review, it was simply you using your imagination to create that comparison.
You really believe Metroid Prime was trying to be something more than just a Metroid game?
The only comment I'll make on the review and Metroid Prime in general in this context (as I'm not really a fan of explaining an explanation even if it is not a straight forward one) is that the very point is that Metroid Prime is nothing more than a Metroid game. That is in fact why I thought it would have been perfect with what you were saying, but considering that you don't agree, then obviously I must rescind my premature agreement with the blog as I misunderstood it, and now that I understand it better, I don't agree. I did however greatly enjoy reading it, and respect your view point.
That all sounds too sweet, so let's end on a negative note:
Metroid Prime 3 quite clearly did try to be more than just a Metroid game...why do you think I hated it so much? Ugh.
And before anyone incorrectly complains about me focusing on elements other than the gameplay, the gameplay was incomparable to Metroid Prime 1 and 2. It was still good, but so disappointing. Both of those are masterpieces, so don't release something that's merely good when the two things precede it are almost perfect.
Foolz said:You really believe that I have stated anywhere that they were?
Foolz said:":say what if I can combine the story and emotion of that but mix it with game elements as compelling as the greatest games ever made"
They've done that, and it's called Metroid Prime.
Well, if you replace story with storytelling.
So why are you praising the game for something that is not intended or isnt really there.
Dvader said:So why are you praising the game for something that is not intended or isnt really there.
I'm not.
Maybe your confusion comes about because the part that I quoted included "of that" which I think was referring to The Walking Dead? Otherwise I really can't see how you can possibly think I've said anything that you've claimed I have.
I'm not saying I explained myself well in this thread, but you're saying I've said things that I didn't even imply. (Except through error as above. But if that's not the reason for your statements, then I just don't get it. :/)
Foolz said:The only comment I'll make on the review and Metroid Prime in general in this context (as I'm not really a fan of explaining an explanation even if it is not a straight forward one) is that the very point is that Metroid Prime is nothing more than a Metroid game. That is in fact why I thought it would have been perfect with what you were saying, but considering that you don't agree, then obviously I must rescind my premature agreement with the blog as I misunderstood it, and now that I understand it better, I don't agree. I did however greatly enjoy reading it, and respect your view point.
That all sounds too sweet, so let's end on a negative note:
Metroid Prime 3 quite clearly did try to be more than just a Metroid game...why do you think I hated it so much? Ugh.
And before anyone incorrectly complains about me focusing on elements other than the gameplay, the gameplay was incomparable to Metroid Prime 1 and 2. It was still good, but so disappointing. Both of those are masterpieces, so don't release something that's merely good when the two things precede it are almost perfect.
Oh didn't see this. Ok I guess we dont agree on the story thing, your comment threw me off since Metroid Prime to me is about as pure of a game, completely ignoring story in favor of gameplay, as they come. I love it of course. Yes I do mean having a game with a story that is as good as lets use Walking Dead as an example now but with gameplay as pure as MP, where your actions in the game are effecting the story in almost every way.
I must remember to double check the chunks of text that I quote in the future.
EDIT:
On the bright side it appears that we both managed to get Yoda online!
Foolz said:I must remember to double check the chunks of text that I quote in the future.
EDIT:
On the bright side it appears that we both managed to get Yoda online!
So what was the code we used? Post, quote, post, quote, quote, edit, quote, edit. Does that summon Yoda?
Dvader said:So what was the code we used? Post, quote, post, quote, quote, edit, quote, edit. Does that summon Yoda?
I think we have to begin it with a misunderstanding or the magic doesn't work. He appears and that's when we figure out what happened. I think that's how it goes!
Sadly it only makes him appear and not post, but it's better than nothing!
Dvader said:Hmm perhaps not. You still seem to have really created your own version of MP. You do know the story is simply that Samus is a bounty hunter and her job is to stop the Space Pirates from unleashing metroids on the galaxy.
Actually this is false. The story usually is that there is some distress signal and somehow Samus is always answering it, then all hell breaks loose. And the goal of the Space Pirates in Metroid Prime is to use Phazon to create super soldiers and not to unleash metroids.
GodModeEnabled said:I fucking loved Metroid Prime.
But it had a story?
Yeah it had a story. An extreme simple one.
The Prime series do have a detailed lore that is told by scans.
travo said:Ah..Metroid Prime....gaming perfection!
No
Hmm perhaps not. You still seem to have really created your own version of MP. You do know the story is simply that Samus is a bounty hunter and her job is to stop the Space Pirates from unleashing metroids on the galaxy.