Archangel3371 said:

While I'm certain things will pick up for the Wii U and that it'll do ok I think it'll be the third place system this gen and the best options for Nintendo is more marketing and keeping the price point between it and the other two systems significantly cheaper. They should just ride out the gen for about four years.

Yeah 3-4 years max. They will need to join the next gen. Or they need some huge casual game idea.

edgecrusher said:

They need to join the next gen? Have you seen MS or Sony's version of next-gen yet?

What? The Wii U is a gen back, you know this.

Dvader said:

What? The Wii U is a gen back, you know this.

No doubt the MS and Sony machines will be more powerful, but I'm still not convinced by anywhere near a level that would make Wii U look inferior or last-gen compared to next-gen. Like I've said before, I know what the Wii U can do because I've played games on the graphics chip its based on, and nothing is taking advantage of this system at all graphically...which is what I assume you mean by next-gen. Also, its a closed platform so it should be able to punch a bit further than my old graphics cards.

MS and Sony's machines are going to have beautiful graphics, but it seems like you are assuming they're going to just destroy anything the U can do on an Xbox 360 to Wii 1 level...and I just don't see that happening. If it does, it will be on the PC. The upper class of PC. 360 and PS3 lasted this long because the celing is a lot shorter than it used to be.

Tried making a fancy table to illustrate a point, but it kept on adding dozens of blank lines before and after it in the post. Finally just took a picture and posted what I had done so far, but...

Who else is there?

After 2012, with soooo many studios shut down, everyone makes it sound like hundreds of publishers and developers will be flocking to Sony and MS, but I just don't see how. Figuring in studios putting much more resources into Mobile and Tablet games, due to dramatically less cost and an ever-growing audience, just how many third-party console games will exist on the next-gen systems?

Huh? That's weird. I didn't notice. They were definitely in there when I made the table originally. Atlus too. Obviously with their collaboration with Shin Megami X Fire Emblem, they should DEFINITELY be on the list.

Dvader said:

Edge I am assuming all be games will come out on Xbox and PS and not on wii u. I would like to be proven wrong but I highly doubt it would happen.

You assume Edge actually cares. He has a PC now and all the multi platform games he will play will be on the PC which will have the best versions by far. This leaves only the exclusives. Which is Nintendo's strong point.

Iga_Bobovic said:

You assume Edge actually cares. He has a PC now and all the multi platform games he will play will be on the PC which will have the best versions by far. This leaves only the exclusives. Which is Nintendo's strong point.

I get the joke, but this isn't always true.  Sometimes developers build for consoles then half-ass a port to PC.  See: Ghost Recon, RE4, etc.

The stats out of the GDC conference only lend further proof to my argument. If only 14% of games being produced are going to be for console (the rest going to Tablets, Mobiles, PC), there will be less third party games overall, and, again, systems will have to fall back on their first-party stuff. Nintendo is possibly in a better place than they have been in, in a while; they practically have a captive audience!

phantom_leo said:

The stats out of the GDC conference only lend further proof to my argument. If only 14% of games being produced are going to be for console (the rest going to Tablets, Mobiles, PC), there will be less third party games overall, and, again, systems will have to fall back on their first-party stuff. Nintendo is possibly in a better place than they have been in, in a while; they practically have a captive audience!

Its like you live in alternate world.