The chaotic roar of a thousand armchair quarterbacks rings loud throughout the Gamesverse.

Like an episode of Stargate S.G.1, the cascading waves of opinion have hit every habitable planet. The inhabitants of these planets have stood agog, eyes on the sky wondering what - if anything is going to happen in regards to the "Nintendo problem" as a lot loud mouthed elitists see it.

The answer? Smartphones.

Yes smartphones. Can I ask what kind of gaming company do you want Nintendo to be? Let's face it, you're never going to see a game like Twilight Princess or Super Mario 3D World on tablets anytime soon. And even if there was, the required investment vs return against which people expect Tablet games to be priced at means they would likely be unfeasible anyway.

Breaking down logistically how you take many games built for dpads, shoulder buttons and diamond button layouts and put them on touchscreen only devices is another problem. How does 2D mario even play on a touchscreen? Of course you can pair a controller with a smartphone or tablet, but how many people are willing to prop up their smartphone on a high enough table, or cradle to play these games?

Not to mention most current tablets can't match the visuals Wii U can currently put out now. What would happen to a Nintendo whose main bread and butter would come from tablets? Do you want Nintendo games to regress? Do you want free to play, shorter, cheaper more rubbish and profit focused games? Do you want microtransactions in everything? Do I want to go into the shop in Animal Crossing only to have the game ask me for real world money to buy a green table? Or 50p for a Mario fireflower?

What happens when Nintendo can't sell a tablet game for £40 and instead has to make a game that sells at £5, or even worse - £2.50?

The other more commonly held view from "hardcore" gamers (the kind who don't bat an eyelid buying Call of Duty every year) is that Nintendo should just go 3rd party and sell games on rival systems (so they don't have to buy those pesky Nintendo devices). They want Zelda, but they don't want to pay for the platform that has Zelda.

It's hard to get past the hypocrisy here, with every platform holder having a slew of exclusive content, any platform owner could say the same thing about any company - I want Halo on my Playstation.

On the other hand if they think that Nintendo is going to go the Sega route, throw in the towel and just make games, it shows a very real lack of understanding about Nintendo as a company. Months ago, Iwata said that the day Nintendo doesn't make hardware is the day they go out of business. Hardware is ingrained in Nintendo, it's a core facet of the company and what they do, their exclusiveness to themselves. And they are really the only company who can largely support their platforms almost by themselves - to an extent.

So being Nintendo imagine the call from gamers "Why not just make a console as powerful as PS4?" all problems solved! Welcome back! By God you've GOT it! All is well! Pats on the back all round!

No. Nintendo as a company will look at that option, as an expensive and risky proposition with no guarantee of 3rd party support. Making an even, more expensive box, risking that it might not sell anyway, an option like that would be seen as something like a back breaker for them. Maybe in the next cycle, but if anyone is expecting a quick turnaround, shelving U and getting something new up and running in the next couple of years, it's not that likely.

And then there is the pricing issue. From Nintendo's perspective, they had to cut the price of the 3DS before sales started taking off and they had to cut the price of the Wii U, selling both at a loss which of course impacts profits because every sales is a loss. The message they are getting back from the market is that gamers wont buy expensive Nintendo hardware. That people will only buy Nintendo products as a low cost companion device. That 3rd parties simply wont support them, not even on a successful platform like 3DS (which most western devs ignore). Yet their most succesful hardware, the Wii sold like gangbusters at a lower price. People forget how radical the Wii was and the base theory behind it: make something completey different for $99.

It was only the cost of miniturisation and gyrometers at the time that made the Wii a more expensive proposition.

A Nintendo faced with these sales and price cuts might actually regress. This could spectacularly backfire on gamers.

Are they getting any third party support? Nope, pretty much being blacklisted on Wii U after two months and barely any 3rd party support on the 3DS outside of a few Japanese stalwarts. A Nintendo faced with this might swing in completely the opposite way from what the gaming hardcores want. They might actually make a microconsole instead. Something so cheap and inoffensive that it will sell to everybody, regardless of what next gen wallet sucker you already own.

It might not even have a disc drive and it might not even be able to pump out Wii U level visuals. It might be.... Vita TV.

And what then would become of Nintendos' major frachises? Would you ever see a game made to the level of perfection of Super Mario 3D World? With that kind of polish, inventiveness and attention to detail? Would you ever see them waste time and money on something as lavish and sprawling as an HD Zelda?

This relentless cycle of Nintendoom that has run for 2 and a half years (before the Wii U ever launched) might not bring about the change you actually want. In fact it could very well do the opposite and make Nintendo the Casual King. Lord of all cheap downloadble games. They could turn into a company less interested in making great games and more interested in pleasing investors -  just to shut Michael Pacters clueless gob.

So say goodbye, make your peace, farewell epic Zelda, farewell amazingly designed Metroid. Hello cheapness, you've finally made your own bed, internet. Now we can all very well sit in it. Achievement, unlocked.

Let's look forward to more touch screen Zeldas of Spirit tracks quality.

gamingeek said:

Something else to think about, Iwata said:




"The way people use their time, their lifestyles [and] who they are have changed," Mr. Iwata said. "If we stay in one place, we will become outdated."




That isn't indicative of them going to make games for PS4, or of making a powerful new console. He's talking about peoples lifestyles and how they have changed, directly addressing the rise of smartphones and tablets.




He also said something like they couldn't keep expecting to sell games at the same price they currently were. Another indication that they want to start selling games a lot cheaper and cheaper games means cheaper productions. You get what you pay for and the indications are that Nintendo will go cheap vs going expensive.

Another indication of a massive backfire. If want a less relevant, less great Nintendo, then this is what could be happening. We should hear more in a week from now.

This is exactly what many people want, be they media or gamers. In fact, this is what many people already say about Nintendo in the hope that endless repetition will influence reality.

There's also a misguided sect that just want Nintendo out of gaming entirely. Why I'll never know. If you don't want to buy a product fine, but why the constant ill will? There's a game going on at the moment in the media, with each outlet trying to one up each other in the hysteria stakes. They all reported an 18% plunge in stocks, but failed to address that the stock recovered so they only lost -6%. And now the stock is back to normal levels, but that hasn't been reported either. I get the impression that people hear what they want to hear and then post facts that fit with their world view of the company and where it should be, how it should be run.

gamingeek said:

I get the impression that people hear what they want to hear and then post facts that fit with their world view

Welcome to the way dialogue works when it comes to every topic ever.

It would be pretty stupid of Nintendo, a solid company sitting atop of healthy amount of cash reserves, to actually make such a paradigmatic shift in the way they conduct business because of the bitching of internet nobodies.

And this is coming from someone for whom Nintendo bears almost no relevance in the current gaming landscape, from a personal interests viewpoint.

SteelAttack said:

It would be pretty stupid of Nintendo, a solid company sitting atop of healthy amount of cash reserves, to actually make such a paradigmatic shift in the way they conduct business because of the bitching of internet nobodies.

And this is coming from someone for whom Nintendo bears almost no relevance in the current gaming landscape, from a personal interests viewpoint.

For Iwata there has been a non-stop barrage of everyone saying: Smartphones... insta-cash! And now he's in a position of losing money for the third year, even if relatively small losses and he has to come up with something quick for the briefing this month.

SupremeAC said:

WW got a few dungeons cut out because they ran into difficulties.  That's just sad, not a business strategy.  I'm just saying that most Nintendo games these days aren't shorter then their pre-GC counterparts.  I mean, look at the sunshine games, TP and SS, those are big, generous games.

It was a business strategy if you remember the interviews during the GC era. The N64 era had caught them off guard and they were mired in long development times. I remember Miyamoto talking about getting the big franchise games out sooner and about shorter games. And the post game interviews for Sunshine and WW mentioned things being cut to get the game out ASAP. Something which Nintendo didn't repeat thankfully as people could see those games dropped from the high standards we are used to with those titles.

Anyhow I'm not talking about them making console games, I just mean that if they were to find that they earned megabucks selling cheap tablet games then they would never make a game of the scope and budget of an HD Zelda game for tablets. There would be an end to their prestige products.

Dvader said:

This is the most depressing look at Nintendo I have seen.

They are going to explore the cell phone market but there is no way it will be their main focus. I am sure they will find the next hook to get people back to buying Nintendo consoles. I just wonder how long they will wait, every year of Wii U is one more year of irrelevancy in the console market.

But again, they've seen that they had to force price cuts to get momentum going. So for them they might infer from this that cheap and cheerful is the way to go, which would again leave them in the 3rd party wilderness. And the system capabilities would of course reflect the mass market price. What if they made a Vita TV instead of a super console? There doesn't seem to be any middle ground to tread in gaming, you're either massive budget or an indie game. For the kind design and not technology focused games Nintendo makes, their options might lead them to a different conclusion rather than megaconsole.

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